Am I a Fundamentalist Christian? - Part IV (Global Elite & Illuminati)
I think we may need to change the title of these posts as the subject seems to have moved away from the original topic. For now I'll stick to the title. This is then the third answer to Jaco's comments.
You make it sound as if the mainstream media has some hidden agenda to propagate organized religion. From your viewpoint I guess you could see it this way. From my view point I just see that the mainstream Afrikaans media is publishing what is important to most of their readers. Most Afrikaners are still Christians or at least were brought up in a Christian home. I must say that I recently discovered just how many Afrikaners has started compromising the Truth of the Bible by entertaining fundamental deviations. These includes heresies like, "Genesis 1-11 are not really true" and this coming from Jean Oosthuizen, the News Editor of Kerkbode, the newspaper of the NG Kerk (as you pointed out to me on Facebook).
While I'm reading your argument that the Global Elite / Illuminati is using organized religion to control the world and world population I cannot help to want to see the irony that many Christian Apologetics believes exactly the opposite. Dr. Kent Hovind was one such advocate that showed how the belief in Evolution and the general preaching of Naturalism causes human life to be less cherished and the result is adoption of things like Abortion and the false message that the World is overpopulated. He shows how the New World Order / Global Elite / Illuminati seeks to destroy millions of human lives and in general the destruction of all Fundamental Religion, especially Christianity.
I guess it is a matter what you believe you'll see. Because I believe the World seeks to reject all Christian beliefs and values, I tend to see how Christian values are being prosecuted in the modern world. As example the NG Kerk's decision to dismiss a gay employee. In some places in Europe churches are being taken to court for having signs that says "Repent your sins" or having conferences about Pornography or Homosexuality. I see how Christian morality is blatantly under attack by Television, Movies, Pornographic Magazines and institutions like Teasers, not the mention the recent Sexpo in Midrand and Cape Town! I also see how the very foundations of Afrikaner churches are being attacked by the "Nuwe Hervormers" and their ideas that questions the authority of the Bible as the Absolute Truth. I see how influential people like Jean Oosthuizen does not only question Genesis 1-11, but all super natural events in the Bible. I see how the very foundation of Christendom are being attacked by questioning of the super natural Resurrection of Jesus Christ! As I sit here, I have no doubt whatsoever that the Christian belief system is under attack by materialism and naturalism more than ever. When I see how modern liberal governments implements more and more laws against Christian beliefs, I tend to agree that the World Order / Global Elite is actually against organized Religion. Laws like legalizing Abortion, allowing Pornography, allowing gay marriages, banning death penalty, banning physical punishment of children, etc.
For me the fact that mainstream media still allows some Christian messages to be delivered is at least some hope that things may improve in future.
I guess you will see what you believe. You'll see all the things you mentioned earlier. How the Global Elite supposedly uses organized religion, etc.
I agree that America, Europe and a big part of South Africa has become more and more materialistic. I do however not agree that this is because of orthodox Christianity, in fact I believe the reason for this materialistic lifestyle is because of the abandonment of Christian believes for Naturalistic belief systems. I belief that the Big Money in the world wants people to borrow and spend money in masse. Christmas, Easter and even the Muslim Ramadan is being commercialized more and more. I wonder how many Christians still think of Jesus Christ during Christmas, instead of Santa Claus, Christmas Trees and presents.
With regards to your view that Atheists and Agnostics are being oppressed in America today, I can only repeat my observations at the beginning of this post. I see more and more how America is outlawing Christian values. I see how a Judge is forced to remove the Ten Commandments from his Court House, how Religion is outlawed in Schools and even how scientific proof of Creation vs. Evolution is kept out of schools. I see how more and more how modern western governments goes more and more against the core Christian values.
I say again that the Bible does not distinguish between different human races. The Bible does however makes it clear in the Old Testament that the Israelites are the chosen people of God. The Old Testament also states that the Jews should not marry people that does not believe in God and follows His laws. Race however is never mentioned except where a specific nation opposes God and His laws. In the New Testament Jesus Christ and His Apostles makes it very clear that all nations are part of His Gospel. I do however acknowledge that many so called Christians has misused these messages of the Old Testament to discriminate against other races and to motivate slavery, etc. The Apartheid governments of the old South Africa was one such government that misused the Bible for its political objectives. Keep in mind that the people that was against Apartheid also used the Bible to motivate why the discrimination against Blacks was wrong.
I am amazed that people still thinks the World and especially Africa is overpopulated. Yes there is a lot of poverty in Africa and some places in Africa definitely has way too much concentration of people. But there are vast stretches of fertile land, which is mostly uninhabited. Furthermore I don't doubt for a moment that if world trade was done fairly and the West (especially America) reduced their footprint on the World's resources, it would have been much different. Yes, it is definitely true that the colonial governments of previous centuries, forced subsistence farmers to work in mines and factories by forcing them to pay taxes, etc. But is it fair to blame this on the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Even if these colonial governments were Christians and did what they did in the Name of Jesus Christ and Christianity, it is still not what Jesus and His apostles preached. Not even close.
As for your argument about "Evil". God created Angels and Man because he had love to share. His Love could never be complete if we did not have our own free will. If God created us as robots that had no choice but to follow his laws and love Him back, we would not be much more that the rest of Creation. He did however create us with the ability to choose for ourselves and choose to love Him back. Yes, God is definitely responsible for creating beings that could love him back, that has a free will to decide for themselves. Unfortunately we choose to rebel against Him. Luckily for us, God's Love is unconditional and out of Love he gave us the Ultimate Sacrifice, His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. Lucifer, his followers and all the people that still rejects God will probably end up in a place devoid of all love, piece and God's presence, called Hell.
The more we debate these issues, the more I see how different we view this world. How we both feel (and observe) that people with our different world views are being prosecuted and discriminated against. We both see what we want to see.
You make it sound as if the mainstream media has some hidden agenda to propagate organized religion. From your viewpoint I guess you could see it this way. From my view point I just see that the mainstream Afrikaans media is publishing what is important to most of their readers. Most Afrikaners are still Christians or at least were brought up in a Christian home. I must say that I recently discovered just how many Afrikaners has started compromising the Truth of the Bible by entertaining fundamental deviations. These includes heresies like, "Genesis 1-11 are not really true" and this coming from Jean Oosthuizen, the News Editor of Kerkbode, the newspaper of the NG Kerk (as you pointed out to me on Facebook).
While I'm reading your argument that the Global Elite / Illuminati is using organized religion to control the world and world population I cannot help to want to see the irony that many Christian Apologetics believes exactly the opposite. Dr. Kent Hovind was one such advocate that showed how the belief in Evolution and the general preaching of Naturalism causes human life to be less cherished and the result is adoption of things like Abortion and the false message that the World is overpopulated. He shows how the New World Order / Global Elite / Illuminati seeks to destroy millions of human lives and in general the destruction of all Fundamental Religion, especially Christianity.
I guess it is a matter what you believe you'll see. Because I believe the World seeks to reject all Christian beliefs and values, I tend to see how Christian values are being prosecuted in the modern world. As example the NG Kerk's decision to dismiss a gay employee. In some places in Europe churches are being taken to court for having signs that says "Repent your sins" or having conferences about Pornography or Homosexuality. I see how Christian morality is blatantly under attack by Television, Movies, Pornographic Magazines and institutions like Teasers, not the mention the recent Sexpo in Midrand and Cape Town! I also see how the very foundations of Afrikaner churches are being attacked by the "Nuwe Hervormers" and their ideas that questions the authority of the Bible as the Absolute Truth. I see how influential people like Jean Oosthuizen does not only question Genesis 1-11, but all super natural events in the Bible. I see how the very foundation of Christendom are being attacked by questioning of the super natural Resurrection of Jesus Christ! As I sit here, I have no doubt whatsoever that the Christian belief system is under attack by materialism and naturalism more than ever. When I see how modern liberal governments implements more and more laws against Christian beliefs, I tend to agree that the World Order / Global Elite is actually against organized Religion. Laws like legalizing Abortion, allowing Pornography, allowing gay marriages, banning death penalty, banning physical punishment of children, etc.
For me the fact that mainstream media still allows some Christian messages to be delivered is at least some hope that things may improve in future.
I guess you will see what you believe. You'll see all the things you mentioned earlier. How the Global Elite supposedly uses organized religion, etc.
I agree that America, Europe and a big part of South Africa has become more and more materialistic. I do however not agree that this is because of orthodox Christianity, in fact I believe the reason for this materialistic lifestyle is because of the abandonment of Christian believes for Naturalistic belief systems. I belief that the Big Money in the world wants people to borrow and spend money in masse. Christmas, Easter and even the Muslim Ramadan is being commercialized more and more. I wonder how many Christians still think of Jesus Christ during Christmas, instead of Santa Claus, Christmas Trees and presents.
With regards to your view that Atheists and Agnostics are being oppressed in America today, I can only repeat my observations at the beginning of this post. I see more and more how America is outlawing Christian values. I see how a Judge is forced to remove the Ten Commandments from his Court House, how Religion is outlawed in Schools and even how scientific proof of Creation vs. Evolution is kept out of schools. I see how more and more how modern western governments goes more and more against the core Christian values.
I say again that the Bible does not distinguish between different human races. The Bible does however makes it clear in the Old Testament that the Israelites are the chosen people of God. The Old Testament also states that the Jews should not marry people that does not believe in God and follows His laws. Race however is never mentioned except where a specific nation opposes God and His laws. In the New Testament Jesus Christ and His Apostles makes it very clear that all nations are part of His Gospel. I do however acknowledge that many so called Christians has misused these messages of the Old Testament to discriminate against other races and to motivate slavery, etc. The Apartheid governments of the old South Africa was one such government that misused the Bible for its political objectives. Keep in mind that the people that was against Apartheid also used the Bible to motivate why the discrimination against Blacks was wrong.
I am amazed that people still thinks the World and especially Africa is overpopulated. Yes there is a lot of poverty in Africa and some places in Africa definitely has way too much concentration of people. But there are vast stretches of fertile land, which is mostly uninhabited. Furthermore I don't doubt for a moment that if world trade was done fairly and the West (especially America) reduced their footprint on the World's resources, it would have been much different. Yes, it is definitely true that the colonial governments of previous centuries, forced subsistence farmers to work in mines and factories by forcing them to pay taxes, etc. But is it fair to blame this on the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Even if these colonial governments were Christians and did what they did in the Name of Jesus Christ and Christianity, it is still not what Jesus and His apostles preached. Not even close.
As for your argument about "Evil". God created Angels and Man because he had love to share. His Love could never be complete if we did not have our own free will. If God created us as robots that had no choice but to follow his laws and love Him back, we would not be much more that the rest of Creation. He did however create us with the ability to choose for ourselves and choose to love Him back. Yes, God is definitely responsible for creating beings that could love him back, that has a free will to decide for themselves. Unfortunately we choose to rebel against Him. Luckily for us, God's Love is unconditional and out of Love he gave us the Ultimate Sacrifice, His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. Lucifer, his followers and all the people that still rejects God will probably end up in a place devoid of all love, piece and God's presence, called Hell.
The more we debate these issues, the more I see how different we view this world. How we both feel (and observe) that people with our different world views are being prosecuted and discriminated against. We both see what we want to see.
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posted by Danie Loots | 10:08
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I would like to continue by explaining the differences between three basic beliefs concerning the nature of God and also how these differences apply to the way people live their lives. I will explain how some of these beliefs are used by people in order to further their plans for more power over other people. These three different ways of thinking about God are atheism (including materialism and secular humanism), theism (most mainstream religions) and panentheism (including paganism, Gnosticism and theosophy).
There is a lot of evidence which suggest that the "people behind the scenes" or the so-called Illuminati, sincerely believe in materialistic atheism. They use political ideas such as "human rights", communism and democracy to create the impression that these theoretical concepts are being implemented in the countries under their influence and that these countries’ respective governments honestly believe in and respect these values. Prominent members of governments, who are under the influence of the Illuminati, often pretend to be sincere believers of some fundamentalist religion. This is especially obvious in the case of previous presidents of the U.S.A. When looking at the videos that were produced by Alex Jones at Bohemian Grove, one realizes that these powerful people believe in a kind of secular fascist ideology and that they see themselves as the rightful rulers of the world.
One should keep in mind that there are a lot of hypocrisy and make-belief in politics. What the politicians pretend to believe in and what they "really" sincerely believe in, are worlds apart. In South Africa we have the ANC and COPE people who pretend to care about the welfare of black people, and we have the DA and VF+ who pretend to care about the welfare of white people. In a similar fashion, religious fundamentalist dogmas are being used by the Illuminati to keep people divided and controlled. The Christian Zionists in America help the neoconservatives to support the government of Israel. Their opponents, the Muslims, believe that Islam is the one true religion and that the Jews are intruders in the Arab peoples’ lands. By utilizing these conflicting ideologies, wars are perpetuated.
Believing in the literal truth of scriptures which were written by different people and which contain a lot of untruths and contradictions, while some of them were meant to be interpreted in an allegorical and mythical fashion instead of literally, naturally causes a of a lot of disagreements. False religious ideas were substituted for true spiritual values. Because of literal interpretations the Creator of the Cosmos is viewed as a tribal god who is jealous and wrathful. Some literalists see themselves as "chosen", while outsiders are seen as "damned". This is how divisions and conflicts are maintained, which make it easier for powerful groups to manipulate followers of these religions. Religion is actually the best weapon ever designed by people with a political agenda. You can control a huge populace without physically pointing a gun at every individual.
The Illuminati view their man-made religious systems as disposable tools. Their plan is to eventually get rid of these false religions and replace the outmoded fundamentalist religions with another false belief system – materialistic atheism. They want their deluded victims to eventually focus on base material concerns and to forget about any higher spiritual values. Many Christian literalists are concerned that secular humanist values will eventually replace traditional "family" values, but they seem to be unable to grasp the fact that their religion was just a tool which was created by powerful groups of people who didn’t themselves believe in the supposed literal truths of that religion.
Most of the original "Christians" of the first and second centuries A.D. believed in true spiritual values, but their "Gnostic" ideas were later replaced by the dogmas of the Literalist Catholic and Protestant churches. These Gnostics had an allegorical understanding of the life of Jesus, as opposed to the later literal understanding of Jesus’ life. After the discovery of the documents near Nag Hammadi in 1945, many researchers realized that there were a lot of different competing ideas within early Christianity. They started to question the validity of the belief that the original Christians were mostly literalist "fundamentalists" who believed that Jesus was the Son of God who died for peoples’ sins. They started considering the possibility that most of the early "Christians" might have had a more "esoteric" interpretation of Jesus’ teachings.
Many contemporary Jewish people are very conscious of their racial heritage and they believe that people of Jewish descent should only marry and have children with other Jewish people. They discriminate against members of their own families who have children with people who are racially different. These racially based traditions have been supported by the Jewish peoples’ literal interpretation of their Old Testament scriptures, for centuries. The racist Christian Identity people also justify their beliefs from the literal understanding of the Bible. The Israeli government is supported by Jews who believe that a form of apartheid should be maintained in their country to separate them from the Muslims. It is because of these historical facts that I believe that race is an important aspect of the literal understanding of the Old Testament.
There is a fundamental difference between the way Gnostics and pagans view the earth and all life on it, and the way literalists view the world. Gnostics and pagans are concerned about the well-being of all the creatures of the earth and believe that it is their duty to improve living conditions for all inhabitants of the earth. They believe that there is an essential oneness between everybody and everything and that one should love everything unconditionally. The literalists don’t believe that it is one of the purposes of their lives to try and implement "heaven on earth". Perhaps this is why many of them don’t think that there is an overpopulation problem in the world? They view the establishment of "heaven on earth" as mainly God’s responsibility and they believe that human beings are superior to all other creatures. Only human beings have immortal souls and God’s message is only applicable to human beings.
Many books were written by Christians in the 1980’s warning against the dangers of a possible coming One-World government based on principles of the so-called New Age Movement and humanism. Constance Cumbey, Roy Livesey and Dave Hunt’s books come to mind. Many people interested in "conspiracy" topics believed that there was a major conflict between traditional Christianity and supporters of the One-World government. However, in the middle 1990’s many investigators of international politics and the origins of religion, started realizing that there is a relationship between the way traditional religion determines the way people live and the ways that people are indoctrinated by the owners of the mainstream media. Many of these contemporary "conspiracy" researchers have the same basic philosophy of life as the pagans and Gnostics, e.g. David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, John Lamb Lash, as well as many of the authors interviewed on the http://www.redicecreations.com website.
I would like to write more articles in future which would clarify the reasons why I believe that the Illuminati don’t have the best interests of the inhabitants of the world in mind and why I believe that true spiritual values have been suppressed by them for many years, indoctrinating people by using false religious concepts.
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